Episode 45: Sharie King & Holly Myers

Join us today as Sharie King and Holly Myers talk about a number of topics including being a pastor's wife, their friendship, and each of their current projects. Holly Myers is both a CKM speaker and the wife of Richard Myers, the pastor at Revolution Church in Gastonia, North Carolina.

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"When you say yes to something, you say no to something else." @CK_Ministries  @HollyHMyers  @SharieKing99  #CKMPodcast | Click to tweet

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Episode 44: Naeem Fazal

Guest host Brian Burgess gets the opportunity to interview Naeem Fazal at Crossroads Winter Conference 2017. Join them as they discuss racial reconciliation and the state of Islam coming to know Christ.

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God doesnt call us to be color blind, he calls you to see the beauty in every color @NaeemFazal @ck_ministries #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

Boxes are created when you cannot see anything out of a certain context. @NaeemFazal @ck_ministries #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

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Episode 43: An Inside Look Into The Life Of The Cartee Family

Guest Host and CKM Speaker Brian Burgess sat down with life-long friends and ministry partners Heather and Carl Cartee at Crossroads Winter Conference.

Heather and Carl are a husband and wife duo who have been serving the Lord faithfully and making music together. These years of ministry have been filled with leading worship, writing songs, and mentoring musicians all over the world. They've also been around since our very first Crossroads Summer Camp, leading worship with us for 22 years. 

Take a peek into the lives of the Cartee powerhouse duo as they share intimate details of their life in ministry, seasons of transition and how they've modeled their faith by taking leaps and trusting the Lord.

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Tweetworthy:

"The only way you're going to fail is if you quit." @hebcartee @CK_Ministries Epi 43 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"Obedience is the pathway & the gateway to having the most joy & feeling the most fulfilled." @carlcartee @CK_Ministries Epi 43 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"Worship your way through walls. Worship your way over mountains. Defeat enemies by worshipping." @carlcartee @CK_Ministries #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

Episode 42: Sermon From Clayton King "You Can't Do This Life Alone"

In episode 42 of the CKM Podcast, Clayton King gives a sermon at Crossroads Winter Conference 2017. Clayton speaks about community. "You can either live together or die alone." God is going to use the community around you to help shape who he wants you to be. Do you have a community of brothers and sisters in Christ walking beside you?

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Paul could not do everything he needed to do unless he had people helping along the way. @Clayton_king @CK_Ministries episode 42 #CKMPodcast | Click to tweet

"God hardwired us to live in community." @Clayton_king @CK_Ministries episode 42 #CKMPodcast | Click to tweet

Episode 41: Part 2, Clayton King & Brian Burgess

Clayton King and Brian Burgess are back for Part 2 of their conversation on life and ministry. If you missed Part 1, listen now.

Join the conversation with Clayton and Brian as they discuss:

  • Living a life as a Gospel family
  • How to keep the ministry & marriage flames hot
  • Importance of having a friend in ministry

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Tweetworthy:

"We can have a bunch of holy routines with a lot of emptiness if we don't actively manage our faith." @BrianBBM @CK_Ministries Epi 41 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"Vulnerability gives us authority." @Clayton_King @CK_Ministries Epi 41 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

 "To fight off temptation be consistent in bible, accountability, and prayer." @BrianBBM @CK_Ministries Epi 41 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

Meet Our Guest

Brian Burgess was saved at the age of 14 and surrendered to ministry at 16. For more than 29 years, he has been faithful and consistent serving the Kingdom in a number of capacities from student ministry, church missions and global outreach, to law enforcement care and prayer and motorcycle Gospel rallies. 

Brian is a graduate of Gardner-Webb University with a B.A. in Religious Studies and a Masters of Divinity in Pastoral Studies.

Today, Brian is an itinerant speaker for Clayton King Ministries, teaching the bible all over the United States. Brian and his wife, Angie, have four kids: Brixon, Briven, Xavier, and Jorja Rayne. Follow Brian at @BrianBBM.

Episode 40: Part 1, Clayton King & Brian Burgess

Clayton King and Brian Burgess are lifelong friends and grew up discipled by the same, late Wilkes Skinner. Brian has been called to a life of evangelism. For more than 29 years, he has been faithful and consistent serving the Kingdom in a number of capacities from student ministry, church missions and global outreach, to law enforcement care and prayer and motorcycle Gospel rallies. 

Today, Brian is an itinerant speaker for Clayton King Ministries, teaching the bible all over the United States. Brian and his wife, Angie, have four kids: Brixon, Briven, Xavier, and Jorja Rayne. 

In today's episode of the podcast, Clayton and Brian discuss:

  • Importance of a spiritual mentor
  • Importance of the call for the believer and unbeliever 
  • Importance of an invitation

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Tweetworthy:

"Iron sharpens iron. None of us can do this on our own." @BrianBBM @CK_Ministries Epi 40 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"The greatest difference you leave on this world is the mark you leave on your disciples." @Clayton_King @CK_Ministries Epi 40 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"Pagans teach for information. Pastors teach for transformation." @BrianBBM @CK_Ministries Epi 40 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"We do what we do for transformation, that calls for an invitation." @BrianBBM @CK_Ministries Epi 40 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"Be faithful in the small things. God will supernaturally bless it." @BrianBBM @CK_Ministries Epi 40 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

Episode 39: Sermon from Clayton King, "I Am Forgiven"

If you've got sin in your past, or done things you regret...Jesus came for you. 

If you're carrying the weight of the world on your back...Jesus came for you.

If you're walking in darkness, desperate for hope... Jesus came for you.

In episode 39 of the CKM Podcast, Clayton King preaches the Gospel with a teaching from the Gospel of Luke 23:32-43 as Jesus hung on the cross, dying between two criminals. 

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Tweetworthy:

"He loves us because He's God not because we're good." @Clayton_king @CK_Ministries Epi 39 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"Here's how you convert from death to life: You ask Jesus to save you." @Clayton_king @CK_Ministries Epi 39 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"Jesus loves us in spite of every wicked thing we've ever done or said." @Clayton_king @CK_Ministries Epi 39 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"You have never done anything so bad to keep you out of the Kingdom of God." @Clayton_king @CK_Ministries Epi 39 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

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Episode 38: Part 2, Clayton King & Pastor Naeem Fazal

If you've heard Episode 37, Episode 38 hasn't come soon enough! Clayton King and Ex-Muslim Naeem Fazal continue the conversation about Naeem's powerful conversion from Muslim to Christian, and more: 

  • The reality of Muslims in America
  • How to engage a Muslim in America
  • How to pray for Muslims

 

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Tweetworthy:

"Christians have to rise up w/a radical kind of love that's not fearful of people that look different." @NaeemFazal@ck_ministries #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"Evangelism is joining a conversation that God is already having with someone." @NaeemFazal @ck_ministries Epi 38 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

Naeem Fazal, a Pakistani, was born and raised in Kuwait. He grew up in a Muslim family, was a teenager in the midst of the Gulf War, and came to the United States in 1992.

He had a supernatural experience with Christ that changed the course of his life. His story has been told on ISPN, Christianity Today, along with several other Christian networks and publications.

He is the author of the book Ex-Muslim and the founding pastor of Mosaic Church in Charlotte, NC. He frequently speaks at conferences and churches around the country. Naeem currently resides in Charlotte with his wife Ashley and their son and daughter. 

Follow Naeem at @NaeemFazal. Learn more at NaeemFazal.com.

Episode 37: Part 1, Clayton King & Pastor Naeem Fazal

Clayton King is joined by Ex-Muslim Naeem Fazal for a 2-part conversation. In Episode 37 and Part 1, Naeem shares his mind-blowing Muslim to Christian conversion story:

  • Life before Jesus
  • Naeem heard the Gospel
  • A supernatural experience that transformed him

 

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Tweetworthy:

"People are attracted to passion. Let people see Jesus in you." @NaeemFazal @ck_ministries #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"There is only one person that has authority over all. It's Jesus." @NaeemFazal @ck_ministries #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

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Meet Our Guest:

Naeem Fazal, a Pakistani, was born and raised in Kuwait. He grew up in a Muslim family, was a teenager in the midst of the Gulf War, and came to the United States in 1992.

He had a supernatural experience with Christ that changed the course of his life. His story has been told on ISPN, Christianity Today, along with several other Christian networks and publications.

He is the author of the book Ex-Muslim and the founding pastor of Mosaic Church in Charlotte, NC. He frequently speaks at conferences and churches around the country. Naeem currently resides in Charlotte with his wife Ashley and their son and daughter. 

Follow Naeem at @NaeemFazal. Learn more at NaeemFazal.com.

Episode 36: Sermon from Clayton King, Unreasonable Faith

In episode 36 of the CKM Podcast, Clayton King reads through Mark 2, in which Jesus heals a paralytic man. In the story, four men were desperate for Jesus to heal their friend. They couldn't reach him with a traditional path, so they took risky measures by lowering him through an opening in the roof. They had unreasonable faith that led with boldness and belief in the King of Kings. Do you walk each day with this kind of faith?

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"The trying of our patience works faith." @Clayton_king @CK_Ministries episode 36 #CKMPodcast | Click to tweet

"Great faith plays out when nothing makes sense." @Clayton_king @CK_Ministries episode 36 #CKMPodcast | Click to tweet

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Episode 35: NY Times Bestselling Author Mark Batterson

In Episode 35 of the CKM Podcast, Clayton King and Mark Batterson share incredible wisdom and insight on a number of topics including:

  • Balancing life as husband, father, pastor & author
  • Defining success in life
  • Longevity in ministry
  • How to keep content fresh & full of wonder
  • Importance of spiritual leaders & mentors
  • How to write a book
 

Tweetworthy:

"You can be doing the will of God & opposing God. Are you doing ministry w/a spirit of pride?" @MarkBatterson Epi35 on @CK_Ministries podcast. | Click to Tweet

"One of the most spiritual decisions we make is when we set our alarm." @MarkBatterson w/@Clayton_King on Epi 35 @CK_Ministries podcast. | Click to Tweet

"Stay humble & hungry. There's nothing God can't do in and through you." @MarkBatterson w/@Clayton_King on @CK_Ministries podcast, Epi 35. | Click to Tweet

"We can't do what the Lord has for us in the future in our current state of spiritual maturity." @MarkBatterson on @CK_Ministries podcast | Click to Tweet

"You're never going to be ready. You just have to take a first step of faith." @MarkBatterson w/@Clayton_King, Epi35 @CK_Ministries Podcast| Click to Tweet

Meet Our Guest:

Mark Batterson serves as lead pastor of National Community Church in Washington, DC.  One church with eight locations. NCC is focused on reaching emerging generations and meets in theaters throughout the DC metro area. NCC also owns and operates the largest coffeehouse on Capitol Hill. Mark holds a Doctor of Ministry degree from Regent University and is the New York Times bestselling author of 11 books, including The Circle MakerIn a Pit with a Lion on a Snowy Day, Wild Goose Chase and the two most recent, The Grave Robber and Jack Staples and the Ring of Time. Mark is married to Lora and they live on Capitol Hill with their three children: Parker, Summer, and Josiah. 

Episode 34: Sermon from Clayton King, Heaven and Hell

In episode 34 of the CKM Podcast, Clayton King reads through Luke 16, in which Jesus tells the Pharisees a story about hell. Clayton uses this passage to drive home the reality of hell. He says, "God's presence does not exist in hell. If God ceases to be the center of all things, then all all things beautiful, pure and lovely leave with him."

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"We cannot imagine what the world would be like without God's presence." @Clayton_king @CK_Ministries episode 34 #CKMPodcast | Click to tweet

"There can be no good in hell because there is no God there." @Clayton_king @CK_Ministries episode 34 #CKMPodcast | Click to tweet

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Episode 33: Sermon from Clayton King, Its Not About You

In episode 33 of the CKM Podcast, Clayton King gives a message on Mark 8 and what it means to align ourselves with God's agenda. He talks about how we push our agendas on Jesus, hoping if we "tack on His name" to our own, we'll ultimately benefit. However, the truth is that we need to put ourselves aside and keep Jesus at the forefront.

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"The best thing we can do is get our lives in line with God's agenda." @Clayton_king  @CK_Ministries  Episode 33 #CKMPodcast | Click to tweet

"A call on the cross is a call to death and to life."  @Clayton_king  @CK_Ministries  Episode 33 #CKMPodcast | Click to tweet

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Episode 32: Catalyst Leader Tyler Reagin & Clayton King, Part 2

MISS THEIR FIRST PODCAST? CATCH UP ON PART 1

Follow along as Tyler Reagin and Clayton King wrap up their conversation in Part 2 of the CKM Podcast. Listen here on iTunes!

  • Building a team culture at Catalyst
  • Coaching the team
  • The importance of emotional intelligence for the leader & the team
  • Powerful reading resources

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"Do you have a palm-up leadership position?" @TylerReagin w/@Clayton_King on Epi 32 of the #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"Leaders with emotional intelligence realize people are the priority." @TylerReagin w/@Clayton_King on Epi 32 of the #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"Leaders are learners." @TylerReagin w/@Clayton_King on Epi 32 of the #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"As Christian we should live a life of wonder." @TylerReagin w/@Clayton_King on Epi 32 of the #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

 

Access Tyler Reagin & Catalyst:

CatalystConference.Com | The Catalyst Podcast | The Catalyst App

Twitter & Instagram:  @TylerReagin


Tyler Reagin is a husband, father and student of leadership. He's also the Executive Director for Catalyst

Conceived as a next-generation leaders conference in 1999 by Andy Stanley, Reggie Joiner, John Maxwell, Lanny Donoho, and several young leaders, Catalyst was created to meet the felt-need that existed within the church leader space; a leadership event that focused on a new generation of church leaders. 

As the need for gathering Leaders Who Love the Church has increased, Catalyst has taken many forms to unify, equip, and challenge leaders from varying streams, traditions, and generations of the Church. Through its live events, weekly podcast, and a brand new community-building app, Catalyst leans into leaders who are seeking to create courageous change in the world— Gospel-centered, deep-rooted change.


Episode 31: Catalyst Leader Tyler Reagin & Clayton King, Part 1

Tyler Reagin is a husband, father and student of leadership. He's also the Executive Director for Catalyst

Conceived as a next-generation leaders conference in 1999 by Andy Stanley, Reggie Joiner, John Maxwell, Lanny Donoho, and several young leaders, Catalyst was created to meet the felt-need that existed within the church leader space; a leadership event that focused on a new generation of church leaders.

As the need for gathering Leaders Who Love the Church has increased, Catalyst has taken many forms to unify, equip, and challenge leaders from varying streams, traditions, and generations of the Church. Through its live events, weekly podcast, and a brand new community-building app, Catalyst leans into leaders who are seeking to create courageous change in the world— Gospel-centered, deep-rooted change.


Listen in on the conversation between good friends, Tyler Reagin and Clayton Kinghere on iTunes!

  • What is Catalyst
  • How to position and prepare for a move of God?
  • What is leadership? How do we steward our influence?
  • How the Local Church prepared Tyler for Catalyst

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Tweet this:

"You can't have great leadership without the Gospel being centered in your life." @TylerReagin w/@Clayton_King on Epi 31 of the #CKMPodcast. | Click to Tweet

"You can't predict a move of God, but you can prepare for a move of God." @Clayton_King w/@TylerReagin on Epi 31 of the #CKMPodcast. | Click to Tweet

"Get out of the way! Let God move through you, not in spite of you." @TylerReagin w/@Clayton_King on Epi 31 of the #CKMPodcast. | Click to Tweet

"Sometimes we get so tied up in doctrine that we forget God." @TylerReagin w/@Clayton_King on Epi 31 of the #CKMPodcast. | Click to Tweet

"Leadership is stewarding your influence by the best of your ability." @TylerReagin w/Clayton_King on Epi 31 of the #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet


Access Tyler Reagin & Catalyst:

CatalystConference.Com | The Catalyst PodcastThe Catalyst App

Twitter & Instagram:  @TylerReagin

Episode 30: Part 2 with Clayton King & Algernon Tennyson

Clayton King and Algernon Tennyson are back in the studio in Episode 30 for Part 2 of their conversation on sex trafficking, the next generation, challenges in ministry and effective outreach.

  • How to intercede the root of sex trafficking
  • A passion for the next generation and why they'll make a difference 
  • Challenges in ministry 
  • Our most powerful witnessing tool
  • Why outreach has to be more than one-week of VBS per year

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Tweet this:

"Let's show the next generation a God that's personal." Algernon Tennyson w/@Clayton_King @CK_Ministries Epi 30 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"Let's show the next generation a God that's not limited by culture or trends." | Algernon Tennyson w/@Clayton_King @CK_Ministries | Click to Tweet

"Relationships will never lose their appeal when it comes to witnessing." Algernon w/@Clayton_King @CK_Ministries Epi 30 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"Relationships will always the most powerful witnessing tool." Algernon w/@Clayton_King @CK_Ministries #CKMPodcast Epi 30 | Click to Tweet

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About Algernon Tennyson:   

Founder and President of Awaken International Algernon Tennyson is a dynamic and passionate speaker with a heart for today’s young people. His unique speaking style captures the full attention of any audience while imparting spiritual wisdom’s on the many issues facing our society today. From local colleges, youth conferences, camps, and to national organizations on university campuses, he has spoken nationwide for over 20 years, successfully reaching across all racial and cultural diversities.

Algernon continues to travel internationally, leading trips that equip and teach young adults how to engage their culture all the while impacting their communities in the most positive ways they can. Most recently, he has become engaged in the fight against human trafficking and remains committed to fighting this epidemic.

Episode 29: Part 1, A conversation with Clayton King & Algernon Tennyson

In Episode 29, Clayton King and Algernon Tennyson share a powerful conversation on cultural and racial diversity, interracial marriage, and margin in ministry.  

  • Why we need the Body of Christ after salvation
  • How the Gospel changes our racist hearts
  • Why we have to stop talking about blending the church, and just go do it
  • Overcoming racism in interracial marriage
  • Finding a balance in ministry

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"You're not going to be consistent in your walk outside of Christian community." Algernon w/@Clayton_King @CK_Ministries Epi 29 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"Man's law can't change man's heart. God's word is what transforms us." Algernon Tennyson w/@Clayton_King @CK_Ministries Epi 29 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"There's a big difference between tolerating someone & loving someone." | Algernon Tennyson w/@Clayton_King @CK_Ministries #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"It's time to stop talking about blending the church. We've got to go do it now." Algernon & @Clayton_King @CK_Ministries #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

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About Algernon Tennyson:   

Founder and President of Awaken International Algernon Tennyson is a dynamic and passionate speaker with a heart for today’s young people. His unique speaking style captures the full attention of any audience while imparting spiritual wisdom’s on the many issues facing our society today. From local colleges, youth conferences, camps, and to national organizations on university campuses, he has spoken nationwide for over 20 years, successfully reaching across all racial and cultural diversities.

Algernon continues to travel internationally, leading trips that equip and teach young adults how to engage their culture all the while impacting their communities in the most positive ways they can. Most recently, he has become engaged in the fight against human trafficking and remains committed to fighting this epidemic.

Episode 28: Chris Brown True Stewardship & Clayton King, Part 2

Catch up & LISTEN TO PART 1. 

Clayton King & Chris Brown continue their conversation on money, ministry and faith discussing:

  • Leadership in the Local Church 
  • Tithing when we don't have enough to give
  • The Prosperity Gospel vs. The Gratitude Gospel
  • Can we trust God with our finances?
  • Working with the Dave Ramsey team

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"Giving is for you, not something God wants from you." @ChrisBrownonAir @Clayton_King @CK_Ministries Episode 28 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"Church leaders have to teach vulnerability, through modeling it." @ChrisBrownonAir @Clayton_King @CK_Ministries Episode 28 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"We have finite minds, but He's an infinite Lord. You can trust Him." @ChrisBrownonAir @Clayton_King @CK_Ministries Episode 28 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"The message of stewardship is message of hope, not condemnation." @ChrisBrownonAir @Clayton_King @CK_Ministries Episode 28 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

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About Chris Brown:  

A dynamic young pastor and speaker, Chris Brown joined the Dave Ramsey team in 2014 to carry the message of stewardship and intentional living to churches nationwide. Chris began his ministry in the trenches as a campus pastor before using his previous business and real estate training to tackle numerous executive-level pastoral duties. 

During this time Chris managed multi-million dollar congregational budgets and supervised the launch and development of eight church campuses totaling more than 12,000 members.

Prior to joining the Ramsey organization Chris spent eight years leading people to Christ while growing churches in North Carolina and Florida. He was ordained in 2007 and often draws from his childhood and college experiences to deliver messages of exceptional faith in God and His love.

Find & follow Chris Brown:

For the church:  Stewardship.com for Money, Marriage, Parenting, Personal Development, Career & Leadership Resources

For the church leaders:  StewardshipCentral.org for Biblical Stewardship Advice, Sermons & Resources

Twitter, Facebook & Instagram:  @ChrisBrownonAir

Listen to the Chris Brown True Stewardship podcast.

Episode 27: Chris Brown True Stewardship & Clayton King, Part 1

The number one thing holding back the local church is personal finances. Are you positioned financially to step into God's calling on your life? Get your finances in order.

In Episode 27 of the CKM Podcast, Clayton King and Chris Brown discuss:

  • What is stewardship?  Key verses:  Psalm 24:1, 1 Corinthians 4:2
  • Practical steps for getting debt free.
  • A surprising answer to the question, "Do you have to have thick skin in ministry?"
  • Chris' story & passion for stewardship.

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Tweet this:

"Manage God's blessings in God's way for God's glory." @ChrisBrownonAir @Clayton_King @CK_Ministries Episode 27 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

"Being intentioned for ministry is different than being positioned for ministry." @ChrisBrownonAir @CK_Ministries Epi 27 #CKMPodcast | Click to Tweet

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About Chris Brown:  

A dynamic young pastor and speaker, Chris Brown joined the Dave Ramsey team in 2014 to carry the message of stewardship and intentional living to churches nationwide. Chris began his ministry in the trenches as a campus pastor before using his previous business and real estate training to tackle numerous executive-level pastoral duties. 

During this time Chris managed multi-million dollar congregational budgets and supervised the launch and development of eight church campuses totaling more than 12,000 members.

Prior to joining the Ramsey organization Chris spent eight years leading people to Christ while growing churches in North Carolina and Florida. He was ordained in 2007 and often draws from his childhood and college experiences to deliver messages of exceptional faith in God and His love.

Find & follow Chris Brown:

For the church:  Stewardship.com for Money, Marriage, Parenting, Personal Development, Career & Leadership Resources

For the church leaders:  StewardshipCentral.org for Biblical Stewardship Advice, Sermons & Resources

Twitter, Facebook & Instagram:  @ChrisBrownonAir

Listen to the Chris Brown True Stewardship podcast.